Sam's Proper MX-3 - LT Turbo project *Parting out*



  • Haha yeah I had the 'ol slow rewind too on the drivers belt, did get annoying so nice to have these. If you do get these front belts shoot me a PM and I will let you know what mods. I did in more detail for them to fit.



  • OK will do :)



  • Right back to work now after an awesome week off and they have fixed my turning lathe. As we are quite quiet at the moment thought I was a good for some homework. Time to give this car the nice & sexy wheels She deserves, so I decided to machine the dish on them, so they will have polished/machined dishes & lips with gold centers.

    Only took a very light skim, have 3 more to do like this then I will reset the machine to skim the outer lip and put them on the hand lathe and blend the radius and create a nice bead on the outer edge. Will edit more pics into this post as I progress with them.

    All four wheels at this stage now.



  • "Themz iz gunna dazzle like jewelz when they iz done!" :mrgreen: Love em already :P

    Do you know anywhere that does anodizing? although I think they'd need bead blasting first then dipping in acid etch then the anodizing, which would dull your machine spun finish?? (Iirc? anodizing is a microscopic layer of hexhagonal facets that are pigmented and reflect the colour that is chosen)

    If your'e spraying em. they need to be a bright yellow/gold Eh? kind of like 'custom gold flake' of old
    I know my experiences of 'golds' is they're great when the base colour coat goes on, but if two pack and you apply laquer, the shimmer often dies??? :(

    How deep is the throat on ya lathe? my dad has a SOAG in his garage and it will only just take a 14" rim with the removable bit beneath the chuck removed? :(

    My lazy seatbelt investigation on a spare went…. so so? Verdict is:
    Fronts and Rears can be only be adjusted ( ie clockspring wound up more to give more retraction) by unpicking stitching on buckle ends, dismantling mechanism???? and re sewing on a dedicated machine using ultra-strong rayon thread!! So buy some 'NEW' ones!!!!!!

    I used to go climbing in my 30's so have access to eqiupment needed to repair slings, harnesses etc and while I have every confidence in the strength of my repairs, I regard any seatbelt repair as NOT possible! REPLACE ONLY WITH NEW!!!!! people. needless to say, Ill put up with the Sssslow rewind!! :shock: :(



  • Haha lets get them blingin indeed :D Yeah we deal with quite a few metal treatment centers which I could of used I suppose, just wanted to see how good a Gold finish I could get with paint. I don't know if they could of masked
    of the machined edges??!! Oh well I bought the paint now, only two cans of plasti kote metallic gold to start with along with a special Metallic sealer spray as it is recommended for items being used outside. How well it stands up to brake dust is another matter though!!??

    Here is picture I found on the net of someones sculpture project painted with plastikote but with a black primer used ( would you reccommend a black primer?) I have done a few test patches with the paint and it is a very nice yellow Gold as I was hoping so I'm happy with that tbf.

    Concerning lathes we have a set of extended Jaws for the chuck that will clamp on the rear outer edge of wheel upto about 19" is my guess then you will start fouling the bed depending on the width of the wheel?! (even with that removable part out the way) Then a pressurre plate on the tailstock gives even more clampage, stops chattering marks and prevent your fingers from slipping into the spokes (!!!) If I did want to complete the polish on that particular machine.
    If its just slim billets being turned the full swing on the Colchester Mastiff I work on is about 27" But if that proves not enough we have just installed a Stanley sliding bed turning lathe with a mahoosive swing of 64" Big enough to machine a fookin tractor wheel I would imagine,lol

    Bad times on the lazy belt situ man, it would of been nice to repair it what with your keen sewing skills an all, but it just ain't worth the hassle is it?! I know of a company that refurbs belts, wheather that's just the actuall belt or mech. I don't know. Or you might get lucky at the breakers with a as new seatbelt set up??!!



  • Paint will hold up just fine with brake dust and such as long as you clear them. My WORK wheels came painted vs powder coated from WORK. I would just not us harsh chemical wheel cleaners that sat on them too long. If you anodize then what ever finish you have your lip will be the finish that you end up with. so if you leave it machined you will get a machined finish. I would polish those to a mirror, tape them off and spray your desired color of choice.

    When you said gold you really meant it! I would get some black, grey, and red primer and spray like some 6" sections onto something and then use your paint over the top then you can really make a good determination on what primer to use. I am thinking grey may be the best, but I also think red might give it something extra, and it could pop more.

    Regardless fabulous work Sam!



  • Nice 'TITS'!!! :P Kin ell if they turn out that bright the reflected image in shop windows down the highstreet is gunna be amazing? :D

    I think plasticote do a beige primer? Dont really think primer colour is that important tho if the gold is heavy loaded with flake pigments and contains lustres and you spray at least 3 coats?

    Ive been a litho printer for 27 yrs and if we run a metallic gold, we get far better results if its laid over a matt yellow ink or primer :?

    Think the black primer was used on the 'gold tart' due to any damage to the gold in the future would only show black through??? :shock:

    Sounds like you have access to some crackin equipment !!! 64" :shock:
    My fathers SOAG is a grumpy beast! still with its leather belt and metal joint hence the brmmmmm tack brmmmmm tack brmmmmm tack! When its running all the paint tins and areosols on garage shelves vibrate, its mounted on carpet and the pulley cabinet is carpeted out, but it still makes its self heard! …..... and felt! It can still turn a 'cd' like surface on a bar end though with its 60+yr bearings etc :)

    SEATBELTS? two outings today first one, buckle under seat! second it had retracted half way to its resting place :o blimey! think im going to have a look at weekend, might even drill a small hole in spring cover and squirt some light oil in there? clockspring is either rusted or grease has dried up?? If I have success? will post a 'how to' with pics etc, if not off to scrapper we go
    :( kev b.



  • With the seatbelts, don't take the bloody plastic cover off.. Stupid thing unpacks and flys.. and I mean.. fly's.

    Still not found my passenger side coil. :(



  • Cheers for that, NOW ya tell me! NO lori, Ive been there already (see above post), although I knew what lurked underneath so was ready for it :shock:
    Strange thing is, fronts and rears have the same 'potential eye removing' clockspring in em, but on the rears the spring cover is held on with puny plastic rivets and the fronts are screwed on?? :shock:
    Both front and rear have written on them: "DO NOT REMOVE COVER" so anyone else contemplating a sneek peek? its written for vvvvery good reason!

    Lori Im simply going to drill a small 1/8th hole in centre and dribble some light lube in! Thanks again for warning fella :) kev b.



  • Cheers for all the tips on the paint Guys and compliments Josh! I will always push that little harder on what I do with this project as it's a great way to learn new skills.
    (rather then just paying people lots of money to do the hard & dirty work!) I have just spent most of the day clearing my Mum's garage of all my late Fathers woodworking kit so I now have somewhere to spray these wheels. Will be taking the wheels back into work on Monday to start forming and polishing the dishes.

    Think your right about the black primer Mexy, will try a few test patches with
    some primer I have lying around, but hopefully the paint is thick enough with enough flake pigments not to need it.

    Good 'ol lathes just keep trundlin on don't they, we have some arkaic spinning lathes big enough to spin a 1.2m square 2mm alu sheet (Now that is fukin sketchy standing next to that as it fires upto 500rpm (sounds like a london underground train coming into the station) but that lathe is really rare and virtually irreplaceable so we treat it like one of the family.lol



  • :bigok: I can see those wheels already Mr fox theyll make us WET!!!! Ill bet? :rofl:
    Just for you Foxy to wet your appetite! These are MIIIIINE! :P These are rears, 15"x 11 " with 345 rubber!!!!!!!

    ![]([url][img]http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag28/blackmexyv6/P180513_1811_zps2672a5c4.jpg[/img][/url]

    These are frnts 15)

    They're 98mm pcd Fiat/lancia/alfa looking a bit tatty now as wheels and tyres are 18yrs old?

    ![]([url][img]http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag28/blackmexyv6/P180513_1815_zpsdcb11212.jpg[/img][/url]

    Cant wait to see yr finished jewels? kev b.)



  • :bowdown: 15 x 11 just made me do a little sex wee! Thanks for sharing man they are still looking pretty fab for age and 345 is just a bit meaty..me likey
    Would 4 x 98 not fit 4 x 100 with wobble bolts, you could go full Carlos Fandango mode on your mexy???!! :D

    If I could afford real split rims (one day please God!!) I would be putting 10J's on the rear of my car hahaha.

    Aye cannot wait to be rolling on Gold 8) I will be running 215/40 tires, Just waiting on some nice Goodyear Eagle F1's or similar to come up in that size which is factory fit option on the Rover MGF's so virtually new pairs come up quite often. :D



  • :rofl: Tissues for the Fox! tissues! I built them up in 95 ( seated tyres myself! never again!!!) and the trend for the seventies look restricted my tyre choice a wee bit to Pirelli's only, 3 yrs later YOKOHAMA released a 315 for Lambos and Porches, theyd have been spot on for the rims as the trend started to go for the 'stretched wall' look, the rims are actually flush with the Grp4 arches but the PIRELLI's are quite rounded in profile so 'balloon' out from bodywork somewhat? :oops:

    Splits 'in them dayz' were quite reasonable??? for the rears I paid £173 each and £171 for tyres, the fronts were half that from 'Image Wheels' Think they're still about?

    Yes they prob would with wobblers? but not sure about center bore of each tho?
    If I get some 'play time' this summer, just for a BIG grin I might put them on the mexy (static only! certainly NO driving about) and take a snap for Carlos Fandango's scrap book? :rofl:

    You get a bloody mask on anorl when ya spraying! :shock: Its suprising how quickly the fumes get to ya even when you use the 'HOLD YA BREATH' method? I once did some touch ups with 'iso 2 pack poison' with only a paper dust mask over my chops, an hour later after cleaning up decide to make my self a well earned cuppa….. with 'salad cream' instead of milk!!!!! :o
    probably explains my current state of mind and "where the hell have I put that" memory? kev b.



  • Haha tissues dispensed.. and I'm spent…Absolutelty love the look of them with Grp4 arches.

    Image rims are indeed still going and I have priced up already for 2 rims @ 16x9 and 2 @ 16x10 it's around the £1200 mark..might ave to start playing the lottey agiain.... or murder the wife hahaha

    Oh doh didn't think about centre bore, would be brilliant to see a static shot one day though :D

    Thanx for the H&S tip man I usually skip the mask, but will invest in something this time as I don't want to end up with salad creamy tea or a catfood sandwhich!! also could pretend I was an old hand at painting or Darth vader!!??



  • Dirty boy! :( The Grp4 arches are cavernous, these are the later type used on the San Remo and Kenyan rally's I actually prefer the early squarer version, but again at the time of build they were only available as a 'rivet on' moulding and I didnt fancy the 'agricultural' look! :( They now produce the whole rear section as a choice with either shaped arch moulded in. ( £1700 a pop for glassfibre, and kevlar if you remortgage your home! :shock: )

    £1200, think thats relative to inflation etc and deemed not bad??? For ME to consider that for my mexy of £550 purchase price, it would be a 'sleep disturber' to throw £1200 quid at her? and thats being no way disrespectfull to you or your P+J or how you consider its material value :) If it floats your boat?….... sail away into the sun and dont look back :P

    Mmmm the odds of winning the lottery are quite high!!!! Your 2nd option although it has criminal implications, could initially release the needed financial funds?...^ IM JOKING ADMIN! if yr monitoring posts?

    Yes, PLEASE wear a mask, its not worth the risk, an unconscious fall with head impact would spoil your weekend and make your wife a rich woman :x

    Better stay on topic, or ADMIN will be feelin my collar for waffling?

    Dont forget those pics :P kev b.



  • Hahha nah don't worry about waffling it's good to chat about like minded stuff on here now & again. Got any pictures of the car out of the Garage? Would love to see

    I think so far I have spent about £3.5K so far on this build!! So whats another K between friends eh??!!. Its funny because when I bought this car I was saying I wasn't going to modify Her (oh how that changed)….By the time I have finished it will probably be around the 5K mark which in my eyes is still a 'budget' build considering some folks drop atleast 20k on just a race engine??!!

    Lucky my Wife is super understanding to the 'cause' plus I bought Her diamonds this years so that will keep Her understanding for a little bit longer (I hope)...lol

    Here is where I work and some of wheel projects we have completed before http://www.metspin.com/xks.html

    ...and I shall just leave this here.



  • Huh Ho thats magic :bowdown: theyre gunna be stunning :P

    Ok fella Ill locate the digital file of my favourite pic of 'Lolly' and post it for ya.

    Shes not been out of garage for two years as Ive had neither the time nor money to get inside her! :shock: Ive had her now 23yrs!!!!!

    Like i said if thats what floats yer boat? Thats what working for a livings about,earning a crust to spend it on things you enjoy, you should never really have to quantify or justify anything to anyone other than yourself if it's what makes you tick :D

    Mmmm I think I prefer your rims without the central cover plate on? (My opinion only) reminds me of some REVOLUTIONS i used to have on a Mk3 escort, they were white with spun outer rims. :)
    And all the drillings in center ad intrest? look like Gotti wheels of old?

    Im guessing there are two PCD's there? could you not have TIG'd them up or pluged them and then machined off?

    Thnx for your work web, will take a peek soon. kev b.



  • Man those lips look great, Bravo!



  • 23yrs Wow thats frikin commitment! Probably longer then most marriages last! Hmm I'm of the opinion that they look better with the center caps in, but a few of my work mates would agree with you! We will see I guess I have a cheeky red & chrome MS domed emblem to go in the middle of that cover too.

    Haha I was very close to buying some REVO's till I found out how much they weighed in 9J! Damn Brock's cant be far off though! Gutted they don't do split rims anymore, would of killed for some 4 spokes at one point!!

    Yes they are 4x100 & 4x108, blanking them would be the way forward I guess
    if I left that cap off, but damn I just want to get them on there NOW,lol

    Cheers Josh, polished a second dish today, came out better than the first. Me thinks I will have to go back through them again at the end….



  • Commitment indeed :shock: and correct, so far the commitments actually lasted 21yrs more than my 1st and only attempt at marriage! :( NEVER again, I'll leave it up to you which of the two I'm refering to?

    Mmmmm split rim, 4 spoke, REVO's (in GOLD with spun lips) Fanfooookintastic :P

    The 6J 5 spoke on my Escort I do remember being quite light compared to the XR3 alloys I swapped em for? but your 9J's would have an extra 3" of ally on em so yes…..portly fellows!

    Well heres my fave pics of 'Lolly' in 2000, been on the road for 3yrs in these pics......Paint looks awsome, she has a surface prob now? dont know wether its primer,or fiberglass? but on the nose section and roof theres small bubbles under the top coat/laquer, if i stab em with a pin, a smear of liquid comes out????? Its a real shame and devastated when I noticed it appearing about 6 yrs ago. :x It looks like she's been parked under a tree and got covered in SAP!!! Still.....What a shape :D

    Better than any wedding photos I have!! :rofl:


 

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