-eunos's- MX-3



  • @b3394cfcbf=-eunos-:

    guys guys… lol steady on, I have a second "wrap around" spoiler (the original) sitting in my shed... you'd be surprised....! it actually does smooth off the ride! i used to have little vibrations in the back end at 60mph, but with the new wing it really has smoothed it off...! handling too, it hasn't lightened it at all... cos i've angled it for minor downforce (I just wanted the look...

    Should be no vibrations at the rear end though, and the "ride" would be most affected by tire choice, whether your shocks are knackered etc., not by a wing that might provide a bit of downforce at speed, which I'd be quite skeptical about, I'd say it's just drag. Just my personal opinion, though. :P



  • im not trying to be harsh but cars that look like that give us a bad name… its all up to ur personal taste and i understand that... but cmon JDM drift and a massive spoiler on a FWD car=not cool. the wraparound spoiler is nice enough and you have a white mx3 which is just as cool, plus did i see stuck on air scoops?? duude wtf !

    just my opinion



  • Well… he did call it PROJECT RICER :lol:

    The drift sticker makes me cringe a little, and the spoiler on the wraparound just isn't right. I think that spoiler would be most passable on the simple hatch garnish piece. When it's sitting on a wraparound it just looks a bit messy. But hey, if you're having fun that's all that matter right? :|

    :lol:



  • @63da02dd50=Ryan:

    Should be no vibrations at the rear end though, and the "ride" would be most affected by tire choice, whether your shocks are knackered etc., not by a wing that might provide a bit of downforce at speed, which I'd be quite skeptical about, I'd say it's just drag. Just my personal opinion, though. :P

    **Drag will provide rear-end stability (well… can rather than will) - 99% of the point of a spoiler is to cause drag and provide higher-speed stability on the otherwise unloaded rear of an FWD car. Remove a stock V6's spoiler and replace with a hatch garnish, then go see how scary it is at 135mph by comparison.

    But you're quite right - you don't need a BGW* on a FWD road car, especially if it has an existing spoiler and in any case there shouldn't be any vibrations to "smooth" out unless there's something else wrong with the car.

    Probably caused by all that drifting.

    Big Gay Wing*



  • lol..drifting



  • Certainly not my cup of tea, but looks like lots of progress is being made!
    I preferred the lights tinited, without the white vinyl on top.

    All I'm gonna say is: Stay away from E-bay.



  • Steady on guys… Right, I'll clear up a few points..:

    Here in Aus you can't get anything other then the wrap-around spoiler on the (30x's)

    @7ba0127151:

    … cars that look like that give us a bad name... but cmon JDM drift and a massive spoiler on a FWD car=not cool. ... plus did i see stuck on air scoops?? duude wtf !

    From the start I wanted a RICER! but I couldn't afford a Supra or Skyline… so I got this 30x... I only wanted to turn heads... I don't race, I don't drift... Just wanted a unique car that I could enjoy and that looked the part...

    I bought that black wrap-around second-hand, so I STILL have the ORIGINAL WHITE ONE IN THE SHED!

    I understand the purists on the forums thinking that I am destroying a nice car... but FYI all the modifications I have installed can all be removed! not much can be said for alotta the mods that I've seen on the forums... what if you go to sell the car and the potential buyer would have bought it if it looked stock (like most sales over here in AUS)

    I understand that most of the mods are only for looks... yes the bonnet vents are stick on... I did make the side vents/repeaters... So what.?! modifing cars is totally up to the individual and I would have thought that most of you guys criticizing my project would understand that... I know it can be constructive sometimes, but just hold off on the harsh comments.. (Doesn't it state that in the posting rules???) An d yes I did like the Tinted lights too.. but the boys in blue didn't... And I gotta remove the vinal too cos they did me again... Altezza's, here we come... anyone had problems with the E-bay altezza's from the US?





  • hmmmm…. there is a very select few nice examples on there... lol but i'm more the track style come street... lol

    http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=26780&highlight=mx3



  • Hey Famine @c33b12de3a:

    But you're quite right - you don't need a BGW* on a FWD road car, especially if it has an existing spoiler and in any case there shouldn't be any vibrations to "smooth" out unless there's something else wrong with the car.

    what I meant by vibrations was the back end was a little light at high speeds… and I think the hatch seal has worn a bit... so thats what the vibrations were... I know, could be the Placebo effect...? hmmmm...



  • @-eunos-:

    FYI all the modifications I have installed can all be removed!

    i would go ahead and do that, i like the wheels though



  • Ease up guys give the fella a break. :?

    …............



  • @6ce3fa5a38=-eunos-:

    I only wanted to turn heads…

    **Thing is, it works both ways. If you "turn heads", you're going to get people turning heads to say "Oooooh" and others turning heads to say "Urrrrrrgh!".

    If you're after attention, you have to accept that you're going to get bad and good attention.**

    @6ce3fa5a38=-eunos-:

    just hold off on the harsh comments.. (Doesn't it state that in the posting rules???)

    So long as no-one's calling you a twatsponge for doing it and just sticking with review of the modifications, I don't think the comments are harsh or against the rules.

    @6ce3fa5a38=jay1987:

    you will love this site….. http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1

    I know I do :wink:

    @6ce3fa5a38=-eunos-:

    what I meant by vibrations was the back end was a little light at high speeds… and I think the hatch seal has worn a bit... so thats what the vibrations were... I know, could be the Placebo effect...? hmmmm...

    **Anything that spoils airflow - a spoiler - will reduce rear-lift at speed (though my MX-3 is fine at an indicated 141mph all day long - until it runs out of fuel). It introduces instability in the passing air, generating rapidly-changing flow patterns in the air which gives lateral stability (side-to-side). You don't need downforce - a wing - to do the job, though it will.

    Adding downforce does a few additional things, however. It increases drag and frontal area and weight, the last of which increases with increasing speed (spoilers just increase drag, generally speaking). The net result is that for every point on the speedo you need more power to get there and maintain it than I do in the same car - and this also means you need more fuel. Also, by adding weight (varying with speed) to the rear only, you change the weight distribution at speed and, since we drive FWD cars, you're taking available force away from both your drive wheels and control surfaces - and adding it to what are in effect just bogey wheels. You reduce available grip (which again, in extreme circumstances, increases the power you'll need to do the same job I can do with less). On a motorway this isn't massively concerning, though if you're required to perform an emergency manouevre it might become a factor. The last thing the wing does is close your boot/trunk a bit harder.

    In our cases:
    Spoiler - Disturbs airflow -> Lateral stability
    Wing - Disturbs airflow + adds downforce -> Lateral stability and decreased fuel economy, decreased performance, decreased emergency response ability…

    Now, in the spirit of helpfulness, if you want to keep the wing, priority one will be a splitter. A splitter is a wing for the front but it'll help counteract the potential control issues I mention above by adding downforce to the front of the car to complement the wing and balance everything out. Splitters can be done cheaply - some 18mm plywood cut to fit the underside of your front bumper - and still be effective.**



  • Look I get that he wants it to be Individual and there's alot of love out there for those that do it right. One of the reasons I love the mx3 is the way ot looks, the lines are smooth and it turns heads for the right reasons. These cars are getting rarer and by fitting things that take away from what is an already great looking car should be open to criticism. IMO. And that's usually wrong :roll:



  • Altezza will be a nice improvement. I'd recommend the black by far. It really updates the rear end.

    Fair play for taking all the crit eunos. The drift sticker is silly though dude :P

    You should be able to get the hatch garnish, you get jap imports right? It'd look way better with your spoiler.



  • Each to there own!!! if you like how your car looks and runs then f$$$ wot anyone else says!!! 8) nice looking car mate nice to see youve put alot of time into it!! 8)



  • Thankyou Soo much "fallschirmgd" at least there is ppl out there with the same mind set as myself… It's like this, I have a mate with an Aussie VL commodore with 20" rims hauling arse over every speed bump... I don't like it, but he loves it... It falls down to this: Are you the one that wakes up in the morning and gets into my car for work? no...! Thats what makes everyone individual...

    Yes it is a nice car... with or without the extra mods... but look guys, carbon bonnets and shaved doorhandles aren't for everyone as you will all know... You have the purists that the only mod they'll ever do is an air-freshener... then you have the rebels that absolutely change the appearance of the vehicle... I know some of you will fit into these catorgories and maybe even somewhere in the middle.

    Here in Australia, there is one type of bodykit you can get (which looks shit and overpriced) there are f**k-all wrecks in the wreckers, and you haveto import absolutely everything... I tried to get a drift bodykit a while back untill I saw it was going to cost $600 AUS just to freight it here...
    It's alot easier for you guys with corksport, Pakfeifer and mazdaspeed dealers much closer to you... so I had to make do with crappy universal aftermarket... but at least I'm having fun.. If I had it my way I would have bought a skyline, but finances didn't allow it...

    Thankyou for the comments, as I was going to get rid of the bonnet vents anyway... but that just spurred me.



  • so does this make it a nice car?



  • lol, that ^^ MX3, imo, is definitely NOT a nice car haha. You do what you like though mate, I've been critisized for some things I've done to mine as "ricey" but to each his own! :D

    Keep right on.



  • Hey Hey, When I first found this site I stumbled accross your posting of vinal dying your door trims.. well Last weekend I tried to do the same (white) but only that curved rise… It was initially going really well.. It was all masked off and prepped... untill the nib on the spray can split and exploded white vinal dye EVERYWHERE!... on windows, seats, doors, floor...

    And if anyone has used it before, it's nasty stuff to clean up... well, without prepsol...

    2 hrs later...

    and I was back at the start... :-(


 

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