Problem - Car caught in a Floodand won't start.
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point was to check it wasn't seized - so the starter has no excuse. So now you know it is your starter or the electrics enroute to it. But you tried directly powering up the starter didnt you? So that would narrow it down to the starter!
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could be the starter solanoid (sp)!
could be worth getting someone to jump start it as the clicking is normally a flat battery or solanoid.
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yes as Marco says, it was to make sure the engine turned freely, if it weren't the starter wouldn't work, i think the last thing to do is to put an earth directly to the engine/starter, maybe get jump leads and put one on the battery negative and clamp it directly to the starter, or other metal part near it, if that doesn't work then more than likely its a problem with the starter as tinyrhino says.
I know you may see what we're telling you as pointless, but the amount of times i've bought something only to realise something else was causing the problem happens, on an old nova we thought the gearbox had died because the engine wouldn't turn, it had been sat for around a month, we changed the gearbox and it did the same…it turned out it only needed a ratchet on the bottom pulley to unsieze it :roll: im sure you'd rather check what it could be than spend uneccesary money :wink:
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wise words :D
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Cool, is it possible to just put the jumps from another cars battery, as mines still flat and takes ages to charge….
Also, which bold does the negative go to? I can see two possible bolts to clip it on.
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yes go get a car (one that works lol), get the jump leads. if it was me I'd do battery - battery first making sure the working car is turned on and running. had to do this last week with the wifes car as her battery died.
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ok i've just had a look at mine, the bolt furthest to the back is the negative, theres another wire coming from it that connects directly to the outer case of the starter, there should be another bolt with a rubber cover over it, this is the live, ies it is possible to connect the jumps from another car battery to it, do what tinyrhino says and try connecting it to the battery first, if it doesn't work try connecting the live from the other car to the live on the starter then the negative to the negative of the other car, but be careful, then get someone to turn the ignition key, if it turns over then its the wiring between the starter and the battery (we already tested the wiring between the ignition and starter a few posts ago :wink: ) if it doesn't work then after all the other stuff you've done previously then its time to get another starter
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Cool, thanks unicorn, I tried it today, but once again the battery had gone completely flat, so there wasnt enough power for the switch…
I've left the charger going on it overnight and will give it another try tomorrow.
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just try what we said with jumping it from another car. you'll know quicker than trying with a charger cos if the battery is duff then no matter how much you try charging it it won't work.
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Yeah, but he said to use ignition to try to start, so need some battery power to make the switch work.
I'll connected the live from the other car to the live on the starter then the negative to the negative of the other car. Also I'll connect the live on my car to the top spade connector.
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lol what do you think the other car is doing there??
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your car will still use its own ignitioin to start. jumping is just like using a battery that is being constantly charged so the power does not drain.
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Sorry i should of writing sooner!!!! lol get a van to jump start while your mate is revving it if cicking gets faster chances are the starter solinoind is ok juts the rest of it has seized (starter) i'll give ya one if you like???
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Ah shit…well I already tried jumping it a week ago, no luck there....Can you get me a new starter then robx1r? I need to sort this car out asap!
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@cc86456243=tinyrhino:
lol what do you think the other car is doing there??
Well I was going to try connecting the other cars battery directly to the starter terminals and I thought the spade connector controlled a switch that would need some power… But anyway, I tried jumping last week (battery to battery) and nothing, but as robxr1 said, the clicking got faster, so I think I need a new starter!
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Just buy this and hope for the best :D
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MAZDA-MX3-1-8-V6-STARTER-MOTOR-PERFECT-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ120222426128QQihZ002QQcategoryZ52640QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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well its not new buts working grand and ya can have it as soon as forensics release my car but you'll have to sort out postage
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That sounds fine, when will you be able to post it? I might get the one on ebay if its quicker.
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OK, managed to get a new starter off ebay, just fitting it now :)
One question - After unscrewing the 3 big bolts, how do i remove the old starter motor?
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OK, got the old starter motor off, but it wasnt a nice sight…lots of rust on the internal parts, after I took the motor off, I took a photo of where it meets the engine:
Do you think its even worth fitting the new starter when the cog is this rusty? If this part is rusty, maybe there are loads more rusty bits- Maybe I should give up repairing it?
