Sam's Proper MX-3 - LT Turbo project *Parting out*



  • Cheers, yep lets hope so! there is a very good bodyshop round the corner
    from me so if it's not I may get them to do it….
    ... going to get some XYZ coilovers first though I've decided, then the bumper :D

    Also made the decision to stop looking for an IHI VJ11 turbo
    as they are few and far between and ideally i want to fit a new turbo!
    So im going to start work on an adaptor block to take the IHI flange
    on the turbo manifold to be able to accept a garrett T25, T28 or even GT series roller bearing turbo 8)

    Breif guestimation of costs of turbo conversion for anyone interested:

    Turbo~ £300 or less.
    Management~£700 roughly for greddy emanage blue igntion & fuel
    fitted and mapped.
    Cluch~£150.
    Wideband lambda~£120.
    Exhaust~£70 if I DIY it.
    Turbo dump pipe~£50 or less depending on type.
    Injectors~£50 or less
    Intercooler~50 or less
    boost pipes~£50 or less
    oil lines~£20
    water pipe connectors~£10

    Now that little lot should be tuneable to 230bhp with the right turbo on standard internals from reading on some of the mx5 forums, but a nice reliable 190 will do me nicely :lol:



  • roughly the same power as putting a klze in, which is cheaper and easier though?

    Saying that everyone loves a t-bo :P :P :P



  • thats a fair comment, done a engine swap before though (205gti1.6>2.0LTurbo)
    and fancied a bolt on upgrade this time aroiund, plus I like to be different ;)



  • @e98c52439a=youdirtyfox:

    thats a fair comment, done a engine swap before though (205gti1.6>2.0LTurbo)
    and fancied a bolt on upgrade this time aroiund, plus I like to be different ;)

    Nice swap bet that was nice!

    Different is good :D



  • cheers yeh it were proper BO, werent many of them around either at the time, its quite a popular conversion now :)
    Im yet to find another mx3 1.6 turbo in the UK though…

    you dont need to swap to uprated fuel pump when you do the klze
    do you?



  • mazda rx7 walbro 225 fuel pump is the popular choice on turbo zes
    n/a stock pump is fine will still run rich.



  • @861b5d151d=youdirtyfox:

    you dont need to swap to uprated fuel pump when you do the klze
    do you?

    No the stock fuel pump easily delivers enough pressure for a NA KLZE



  • Cool, no need to swap yet.

    Looking at the piggyback ecu side of things i can save
    a couple hundred quid by buying and fitting an emanage
    myself with a boomslang plug and play harness with knock sensor.

    make that a safe 165bhp then,lol

    @3cfcfccc54:

    The Greddy eManage will return better fuel economy on a low boost setup and works well up to about 180bhp (1.8) or 165bhp (1.6) but makes compromises to the tuning as the power increases. If you are wanting 200bhp or more, then we highly recomend the Emerald ECU (our preferred engine management solution). The Emerald tuned on the rolling road outstrips both BEGI FMU and Greddy eManage in number of features, economy and driveability



  • i would recomed fcon,omex or pectal ecu



  • depends on where i going for mapping will
    depend upon there chosen ECU really,
    not sure i can stretch to full standalone though.

    That quote^ is from mx5mad in essex.



  • http://www.mx-3.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=73077

    Just another idea I thought I would share! :D



  • @271f7ecb7c=youdirtyfox:

    Cheers, yep lets hope so! there is a very good bodyshop round the corner
    from me so if it's not I may get them to do it….
    ... going to get some XYZ coilovers first though I've decided, then the bumper :D

    Also made the decision to stop looking for an IHI VJ11 turbo
    as they are few and far between and ideally i want to fit a new turbo!
    So im going to start work on an adaptor block to take the IHI flange
    on the turbo manifold to be able to accept a garrett T25, T28 or even GT series roller bearing turbo 8)

    Breif guestimation of costs of turbo conversion for anyone interested:

    Turbo~ £300 or less.
    Management~£700 roughly for greddy emanage blue igntion & fuel
    fitted and mapped.
    Cluch~£150.
    Wideband lambda~£120.
    Exhaust~£70 if I DIY it.
    Turbo dump pipe~£50 or less depending on type.
    Injectors~£50 or less
    Intercooler~50 or less
    boost pipes~£50 or less
    oil lines~£20
    water pipe connectors~£10

    Now that little lot should be tuneable to 230bhp with the right turbo on standard internals from reading on some of the mx5 forums, but a nice reliable 190 will do me nicely :lol:

    T3 T4 turbo is 150quid mate new



  • Bit big for my 1.6 engine running 7psi, looking for really quick spool up! Cheers though :)



  • they put t3 t4's on rs turbo's also a 1.6



  • yeah know mate, and tbh it would be easier making a t3 fit as you could use
    an adaptor plate on the mani instead of a adaptor block. seen a fully rebuilt t25
    with 360 race bearing and stagger gap seal for 200 quid just up the road from me,
    i wanna boost as low down the rev range as poss :)



  • just some more info on the turbo conversion:

    http://www.boomslang.us/ can possibly build a plug and play harness
    running emanage blue (ignition and fuel) if I send them the schematics for
    around $200.
    schematics here : http://mx-3.com/manuals/index.php?folder=/1995 Workshop Manual/Z/

    I've also enquired into a SPEC stage 1 clutch from the UK
    http://www.specclutch.com/dealers/United_Kingdom
    with a torque rating of 195 lb/ft wich retail at $269,
    yet to find out a UK price though.

    Also some good info here : http://miataturbo.wikidot.com/fuel-injectors



  • No need for an adaptor block now as I just bought this little beauty
    of ebay.usa for £140 delivered :D :D :D

    Ummed and arghed about it, then watched some 323 turbo vids on
    youtube wich swung it for me :lol: 8)

    IHI VJ-11 off a Ford probe! Just needs a slight mod to the wastegate actuator
    bracket to fit supposedly.



  • Turbo turned up today! no shaft play wich is great for a Turbo
    on 90K ish miles.

    Next up to get will be 330cc 3SGE MR2 injectors…



  • damn man everyones going all turbo. i still think though now my green ze off the road after the rebuild i wanna go the sc route just to be super cool and sexy heh



  • Nice. Looking forward to seeing this! Plenty of smashed mr2s about to get those :lol:


 

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