Wheels or paint???



  • hi lads,
    got a dilems,either i can get my cars rust sorted and painted or go buy my 17s?
    i got 12 mot so thinking of leaving the paint till i next have money.
    but cars getting me down with the body work.
    what would you do?
    thanks



  • What body work is at fault with your car is it dull paint or actual rust, if just dull paint then i would spend a weekend cleaning. If rust i would consider getting it done so that is does not eat in and get worse.

    If you are gonna buy 17's then its gonna look like its a roller skate IMO your gonna have to lower it 30-40mm. . . .



  • yea 17s,
    rust mate,only scabs,passenger doors dented,ive got spare door for it but insides got to be painted before i fit it.

    my mates taking the pee,said 2weeks a go he was going to sort it,i dont have enough to go to another paint booth,ive decided to leave them any way.

    might just self prep it and get a quote off a paint shop if my pal dont get back to me on monday,done this with my other car and it sat in primer 3months wasting tax sitting on drive.

    but it was done eventually for £150 quid.

    i thought 17s would look better and fill the big space above my wheels.
    lowering is a option im considering



  • check out my project, got 17s pics before and after lowering 40mm+.



  • @d9c170195f=noluv:

    i thought 17s would look better and fill the big space above my wheels.
    lowering is a option im considering

    17's will look better but only if you lower it :) I would recommend 15's or 16's if you are looking for performance since they are generally lighter…



  • personally i'd get it painted first, then wheels. and while the car is being sprayed take your wheels and spend that time refurbing them as best you can for as little you can



  • get the body right first mate, thats what i did, arches, if done properly will cost alot, i had some fabricated to replace the bad stuff, on one side. if you just patch it it will look worse… also decide what you actually have planned, if major body mids are on the cards, hold on for a bit, and do it all at the same time. i spent three years on and off doing mine and its still not where it should be but i had it planned from the start.
    if youn cant afford wheels and lowering at the same time... wait. and go for 18z if you wana go big, 19z will fit too with no mods, and a 45mm drop with no scubing, but i chucked mine as they were a little to harmful on performance, so back on 18z



  • thanks for replys,
    the rust has not caused holes,just water bubbles under paint and scabbs,so im planning on taking the rust completely off,even if i have to grind then fill.

    i got a friend in a proffesionel body shop but last car i had done it had holes in the arches and even after removing most the rust it bubbled back up,so im thinking either change them or if theres no filler covering holes under there,taking it right down and removing all the rust.

    might just paint the inside of the passenger door my self as no ones really going to see it,that wil save time.

    i didnt even ask my mate to paint it,he offered and said i will paint it but you will have to get a new door,i said it will be hard getting same colour,he goes so what il put it on the stand and paint inside,i said that will be a big job then just do both sides the car,he insisted on doing it as his one of these,if he does some thing he does it proply.

    thing is,is weather his charging me for things he wants to paint and i dont want him to,like inside door and bumpers and both sides of car,when i only need my arches touched up and 1 door painted,

    either way its mates rates and im thinking he will probly say 50 to his boss for paint and 100-150 for him "his a mate,1 of them mates where you only get a few in a life time" pluss he owes me favours!

    his taking ages though now and he took the pee with last car,sat in primer for a month,then he painted 1 side,waited another month to get it finished,was worth it in the end but i should of removed the rust completely and got plates welded in,just never had the money or time and never thought it would bubble tbh.

    think this time,im not going to pay til he does it as i think because he had the money 1st he thought oh il do it when ever like.

    so im just gonna give his boss the paint money and wait till cars painted,that way he cant hold me to ransom and ask for more money or i can say yeah yea but just give him the price he asked for 1st when his finished as his offering to do stuff i dont want him to do.

    wheels wheels,i didnt get them so im probly going to get a strike off ebay.
    funds are the problem,i wouldnt go 18-19s due to tyre prices and 17s tyres are not as dear as they use to be.

    as for body kit,i think il only get a spoiler on eventually,seen a few nice kits but mainly look ott, spoiler 17s and may be side skirts with a small grill in bonnet at front to get air into that air thing thats on the radiator and black rear lights and i thinks i will be done with it.

    not bothering with engine mods as its eating petty,might just de cat and change manifold,may be throttle body,was thinking of doing the klze swap eventually but im guessing that will eat more petty,so i might even get a 1.6 put in.

    if it mess's up im either going klze or 1.6 as some of the parts are stupidly priced,like a distributor £150 i can buy a standard v6 mx3 engine for £200 or even a hole car,mot failure and may be a mx6 or probe/exedoes for not a lot more.

    im in 2 minds what i want to do as the way its eating petrol is really doing my head in and i dont even floor it about.
    thanks for replys

    ps do rear arches bolt off or are they welded?
    what prices are lower springs?
    cant mine be cut shorter?



  • Arches are one piece of metal into the rear 1/4 panel. You would have to cut out, get new metal welded in, grind down, sand, smooth etc. Ask James, his look amazing.

    KLZEs have been known to eat less petrol than the 1.8 k8 if you're not lead footed.

    Springs £90 up I think.

    Don't cut springs! It's just not worth the danger.



  • I am getting some paintwork done too - got to get rid of the pink bits.
    Both bumpers, spoiler, both door mirrors and tidy up a few chip marks on the front all for £120 including all paint.
    After that the only blemish will be a small trolley ding on the o/s rear panel but to be honest you have to really search for it to see it.
    Will be getting rear window slightly tinted and that will be it for the outside - don't believe in modding too much like to stay original.
    Will do pics when done (next Mon/Tues) and I have had chance to do a bit of detailing work.

    Oh yes! And I will put the uk-mx3 stickers on!!



  • @1d382c81f5=Marco:

    Arches are one piece of metal into the rear 1/4 panel. You would have to cut out, get new metal welded in, grind down, sand, smooth etc. Ask James, his look amazing.

    KLZEs have been known to eat less petrol than the 1.8 k8 if you're not lead footed.

    Springs £90 up I think.

    Don't cut springs! It's just not worth the danger.

    thanks marco,
    i really want to give the klze a go,this things doing my head in,like 10 quid every time i go the shop,picked babby up from momes 5 mile,dropped him school and back,close on quarter a tank lol,un real,i use to put 5notes in 2.0 turbos and get more for my petty.
    atb



  • @6e15e9fb0a=Rod:

    I am getting some paintwork done too - got to get rid of the pink bits.
    Both bumpers, spoiler, both door mirrors and tidy up a few chip marks on the front all for £120 including all paint.
    After that the only blemish will be a small trolley ding on the o/s rear panel but to be honest you have to really search for it to see it.
    Will be getting rear window slightly tinted and that will be it for the outside - don't believe in modding too much like to stay original.
    Will do pics when done (next Mon/Tues) and I have had chance to do a bit of detailing work.

    Oh yes! And I will put the uk-mx3 stickers on!!

    mate,
    is that mates rates?not being funny but all your car will need to get it red again is mopping,if its not mates rates they may be just mopping it up for you.

    if they are painting,why they not offered to just fill the ding in?if they paint it,it will be a waste as they will charge you to paint it again to do the ding,i take it its not a mate as he would of offered to sort the ding with out a doubt as its pointless painting and not removing them.

    think you should ask him to remove the ding,specialy if his painting where the ding is or his going to charge you next time.
    atb



  • what we mopping?



  • ^^^

    is that a joke?

    if not I'm sorry for the above, mopping is the polishing/buffing process that brings the paint to its finest, using a 'polishing mop' which looks like a 9" grinder, and various grades of cutting pastes G1-G10. makes cloudy pink paint turn into deep shiny red



  • @d7615e60fc=Welly:

    what we mopping?

    @d7615e60fc=jamesmx3:

    ^^^

    is that a joke?

    if not I'm sorry for the above, mopping is the polishing/buffing process that brings the paint to its finest, using a 'polishing mop' which looks like a 9" grinder, and various grades of cutting pastes G1-G10. makes cloudy pink paint turn into deep shiny red

    I dont think he was asking what mopping was, just what was going to be mopped.



  • @7b674c50b4=jamesmx3:

    ^^^

    is that a joke?

    if not I'm sorry for the above, mopping is the polishing/buffing process that brings the paint to its finest, using a 'polishing mop' which looks like a 9" grinder, and various grades of cutting pastes G1-G10. makes cloudy pink paint turn into deep shiny red

    i think he was serious,
    i had never heard of it till my mate got qualified for painting cars.



  • noluv,,if you dont mind me asking what's your trade? :?:



  • @0e0197bc2f=Mechanic:

    noluv,,if you dont mind me asking what's your trade? :?:

    no trade mate,



  • @8ab38ccd6e=noluv:

    @8ab38ccd6e=Mechanic:

    noluv,,if you dont mind me asking what's your trade? :?:

    no trade mate,

    You dont work ?



  • @6b6eea1394=Mechanic:

    @6b6eea1394=noluv:

    @6b6eea1394=Mechanic:

    noluv,,if you dont mind me asking what's your trade? :?:

    no trade mate,

    You dont work ?

    lol,course i work just no trade or qualifications in a trade.
    i worked in dads garage for years.
    do pest control for my self at moment,sure i posted a reply to you with regards to s/c and fac,i am applyin soon and hope fully open license.


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